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The Netscape Plugins API is 'an ancient plugins infrastructure inherited from the old Netscape browser on which Mozilla built Firefox,' according to Bleeping Computer. But now an anonymous reader writes: Starting March 7, when Mozilla is scheduled to release Firefox 52, except for Flash, which Mozilla plans to support for a few more versions. This means technologies such as Java, Silverlight, and various audio and video codecs won't work on Firefox.

Mozilla this week announced that it will support Google's compressed WebP image format in Firefox, leaving Apple's Safari as the one flagship browser without any compatibility. Mozilla's adoption. Mozilla will drop support for Apple's OS X 10.5, or Leopard, after it ships Firefox 16 in October, according to company developers.

These plugins once helped the web move forward, but as time advanced, the Internet's standards groups developed standalone Web APIs and alternative technologies to support most of these features without the need of special plugins. The old NPAPI plugins will continue to work in the Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) 52, but will eventually be deprecated in ESR 53. That will allow Firefox users to continue using old NPAPI plugins past Firefox 52, by switching the update channel from Firefox Stable to Firefox ESR. It'll be the day Firefox doesn't need to die with every upgrade because the old extension structure was more or less direct access to every little nook and cranny, which sounds like 'full power' but really meant that the bigger the extension was, the more it was (for all intents) rewriting Firefox.

The newer style doesn't have breakage, has proper privilege separation, process separation, etc etc, and the browser itself won't break everything because of Dave's Way Cool Website Toolbar. And you still have. 'This add-on will stop working when Firefox 57 arrives in November 2017.' This add-on will stop working when Firefox 57 arrives in November 2017 and Mozilla drops support for XUL / XPCOM / legacy add-ons. It should still work on Firefox 52 ESR until ESR moves to Firefox 59 ESR in 2018 (Q2).

There is no 'please port it' or 'please add support for it' this time, because the entire add-on eco system changes and the technology behind this kind of add-on gets dropped without replacement. mozilla.org. mozilla.org DON'T UPDATE. New versions don't allow sufficient user control.

USE THIS: ghostery-5.4.10-sm+an+fx.xpi Link: mozilla.org. mozdev.org.

mozilla.org. mozilla.org. mozilla.org. mozilla.org. mozilla.org. mozilla.org DON'T UPDATE. New versions don't have as many features.

USE THIS: snaplinksplus-2.4.3-sm+fx.xpi Link: mozilla.org. mozilla.org.

mozilla.org. Ghostery is produced by a for-profit company with some dubious motives. It's closed source, and it does collect information, but maybe that information isn't so bad? I don't know, I don't want to slander them unfairly and I do think that the information collection is optional. It also uses a block list to determine what to block which. While not terrible, is not the best approach I think. You just wind up playing wack-a-mole and something's always going to slip through.

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Privacy Badger is produced by the. The chrome (in the mozilla sense of the word) add-on system is different from the NSAPI system. Add-on extensions are programmed in Javascript and can be seen by going to about:addons Right now the only NSAPI plugins listed are the flash plugin, the Java plugin, and a plugin from Rhythmbox that is supposed to handle itunes urls or something. None of these things I use, and all of them are disabled in my browser using the QuickJava add-on. You can see your plugins by going to the url about:plugins.

If Flash is being whitelisted; the main news will be Java applets(much rarer than they used to be; but a distant second to Flash in the embedded-blobs-of-stuff-that-can't be done in HTML, at least not when this site was built market); maybe Shockwave; if anyone still uses that; and then mostly shitware(at least at one point, Acrobat or Acrobat Reader would install something to grab PDF handling, some AV packages would inject their little contribution; Cisco has a hilariously vulnerable Webex support plugin. Java applets(much rarer than they used to be It seems to me that a lot of servers use Java for remote management (IPMI, ILO, DRAC.), either for everything or just remote KVM. Some networks switches (D-Link for example) also use it, at least for the live monitoring on the web interface.

I rarely see Java used on the public internet though. Still, I guess I'll have to stop updating firefox so as not to break compatibility with the Java stuff that I have to use. Java already whines enough, no need to add even more inconvenience. Still, I guess I'll have to stop updating firefox so as not to break compatibility with the Java stuff that I have to use. Sadly, I doubt you'll be alone.

I work with a lot of networked devices, which is a common environment where Java in a browser still matters. While there are now alternative technologies that can be used for much of what we used to use Java for, people should remember that they have only quite recently become stable and reliable enough for long-term professional use in an embedded context, and even today, there are plenty of bugs and performance problems with both canvas and SVG, so they're still not a perfec. It's a horrible shame that access to all of this content, much of it developed over two decades but as relevant today as ever, is being lost just because the browser developers and Oracle couldn't get their acts together.

It's because the academics jumped on a language encumbered by shitty licensing agreements. They had a choice, they could have made javascript pages, but instead they used Java. Anyone could see that Sun had too much control over the language, and later, that Oracle exerted even more. Well, anyone thinking. Academics often think only about what they want to think about, and nothing else seems important. Well, guess what? It is, since we live in the really real world.

They had a choice, they could have made javascript pages, but instead they used Java. You could draw interactive diagrams, or animate them, in JavaScript in the year 2000? It was difficult enough doing these things in JavaScript ten years later! The reason the tag existed was that Java was the standard way to do things beyond what basic HTML could handle for a long time before. As for too much control, I invite you to consider that the likes of Apple, Google and now Mozilla have been successfully killing off access to useful content that has existed for 10-20 years for their ow. I certainly don't disagree that Flash should be taken out and shot on security grounds; but it is pretty much the last NPAPI plugin that you are likely to piss users off by dropping support for. IOS got away with it; but Safari continues to support it(though grudgingly); Chrome killed NPAPI; but the 'Pepper' plugin interface appears to exist primarily to support Flash; Edge also whitelists Flash; and Flash on Android died mostly because Adobe couldn't make it work very well; not because Google shoved them o.

No, this is good news. Flash isn't the only bad plug-in out there, and by only supporting just that one they can more heavily sandbox it like Chrome does. Flash vulnerabilities typically are mitigated in Chrome anyway, only being of much danger to Firefox and IE users. Adobe Reader, Java and numerous anti-virus plug-ins are all just security nightmare crap that are long overdue for deprecation. Unfortunately a lot of people still like Flash but at least once (now?) most sites have moved to HTML5 for video it.

Many enterprise management applications require java in the browser They should have started converting those to Javascript long ago, it's not like they didn't know this was coming years ago. As a bonus, you get to not write Java, and not deliver a less than satisfactory end user experience with all the waiting around for mammoth Java applications to load and slowly jit themselves, and the generally crappy Java UI design because developing in Java is so cumbersome that you are pretty must stuck with the first piece of alpha crap that comes down the pipe. They should have started converting those to Javascript long ago, it's not like they didn't know this was coming years ago. Not how any of this works. For one thing, JS has only recently become a viable alternative for a lot of what used to be done with plugins. In many cases it's still relatively slow and/or buggy as hell.

For another thing, it costs time and money to produce software, and big rewrites are notoriously expensive. Expecting people to just dump working software because it's inconvenient to continue supporting its platform is unrealistic. As for criticism of Java's speed, it takes longer to display Facebook.

With Firefox and Chrome having over 2/3 of the browser market between them, your bank will have not much of a choice. Banks can be pretty stubborn.

I did a Token Ring to Ethernet conversion project at a bank branch office in 2005. I was shocked to see Token Ring in the field. My previous experience with Token Ring was taking apart a NIC card to find an 80186 processor in 1995 and reading about them in certification exams prior to 2005. The five-year-old branch office had coaxial cables installed beside the already installed Ethernet cables. The bank was perfectly fine with 16Mbps for decades. The killer app for the convers.

The argentine tax collecting agency still has critical parts of their web site (particularly the one where small business and independent professionals declare their gross income) that only work under IE6 due to use of MS-only javascript API. The 'funny' thing is that with newer versions of IE you have to use the site in 'compatibility mode' which with the latest versions has to be activated through the developer tools panel. The tax collection agency gives instructions on how to do this instead of fixing t.

There really is no benefit in replacing native plugins with a strictly inferior technology - Javascript instead of the language of your choice and then removing the former. This is just another closing down of an ecosystem for the sake of nonexistent 'security' under the obviously dubious presumptions that the developers of the base technology are more competent about security than plugin developers and that users need to be constantly patronized. Instead, they should open a native plugin technology to as many languages as possible and let people decide what language to use and which developer to trust. But you can see this trend everywhere. Less power to users and third-party developers and more control to the people who run the 'platform'.

And they should have moved to javascript a long time ago, requiring people to install modern browsers instead of continuing to use internet explorer 6 and microsoft XP without any service packs. Still, you can just back up Firefox 51 and put it to a live linux cd of some sort, then making it access the hardware you need via a VM. Yeah the vendors should have released firmware patches or hardware modules to deal with the changes to browsers. Never going to happen. People with very sensitive jobs are going to keep using crappy unsecurable browsers because they no longer have any choice. The plugins were totally unsecurable already.

Just use that browser for accessing those devices only, without internet access. 'Without internet access' isn't going to work when you are accessing KVM consoles on servers on the other side of the world which are at a hosting company where you don't have the option of a VPN. There are many thousands such sites perhaps millions.

I deal with about a hundred personally. Out in the real world people do need java, and often flash as well, in a browser, to be able to do their jobs. You can't just say 'Well I'm not going to do my job if you don't upgrade the systems so I don't need java' because they'll just fire you and hire someone who will. Recent Java versions prompted users to enable an applet before it was run, flash still doesn't. Yes it does, at least for the past several years.

There used to be a Firefox extension called Flashblock that prompted users to activate each SWF object on a site that the user hasn't added to the extension's whitelist. Nowadays, Firefox itself includes click-to-play for Flash Player.

But no matter how activated, SWF click to play behavior used to be an effective plausibly deniable ad blocker until the iPad took off and ad networks got the 'mobile first' hint. Well the switch manufacturers. Obviously, if your switch is already an older model and the manufacturer made js available only in the new iterations of it, then its excusable, but then you still are required to use older software. I mean, some software only runs on Windows XP, right? So you still continue to use Windows XP to operate that software. Plugins are an outdated concept and insecure, you shouldn't expect to be able to run them on the newest browser versions.

You don't even need a vm, jus. I've been using Firefox since the early versions and it is only in the last couple of years that it has given me any problems. The most frustrating is strange crashes on mainstream websites, on multiple platforms. By far the worst Firefox version is on Android which really pisses me off. I like checking in on several websites on my Android tablet of a morning and Firefox crashes more than once a day and I am really sick of that stupid sorry message. I also use Firefox on Linux and Windows - both have pr. I imagine people would.

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This change basically crippled Pale Moon to the point of uselessness to people like myself who migrated to it in search of alternative to Firefox when Firefox went nuts with UI experiments and other weird BS. That said, to me that also demonstrated full willingness on part of PM devs to remove add-on compatibility for reasons. Browser is a platform for add-ons, and many of them are crucial for me. That patch basically broke several add-ons that are absolute deal breakers for me.

And considering the state of forums when I came to ask for support in possibly making these add-ons work, as I did after the previous patch that also broke many add-ons (but I was able to find replacements for all crucial ones then), it demonstrated to me that developers simply did not understand the same thing that Firefox developers miss. We don't come to them for the browser. We come to them for the browser that is also the add-on platform for our favourite add-ons that make everyday browsing far more comfortable, or meet specific work flow demands. As a result, removing support for some add-ons is simply unacceptable, especially when you consider that many of the more esoteric add-ons that people like are often not updated, ever. They just work.

Until browser devs decide that they will break them. 'A series of hacks' Nope, these aren't hacks, they are simple settings. And there is a much easier way. Download the f.cking ESR-Release, unzip it and use it instead of the normal release. This even works coming from a newer version (nobody will guarantee you a smooth downgrade, but normally it works without major problems). And on the other hand, the ESR will only delay the change. ESR is similiar to stopping upgrading firefox, but guarantees you security patches until the next ESR superseedes the current one.

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This move from Mozilla foundation is consistent with what we have seen happening with Chrome, Edge. It has been initiated long by Apple which decided to drop flash support on their mobile device. The motivation of these move are well known: less battery usage, more security. For general public it is justified. However there are a whole range of corporate application that relied and still rely on plug-ins. Not just flash. So deep down, by not providing at least a supported version of browser with plugin, the industry is building a monolithic platform.again.

Single language, single platform. Its about control not user choice. The argument that HTML5 is now mature enough does not fly very far. Mature enough for common web app sure. But it you start using advanced feature such as WebRTC, you'll start seeing glitches and incompatibilities that pushes some service to advertize 'please use Chrome'. The fact is that now people in general (users, developers and software editors) are techno racists.

They want security and despite technology that is not 'like them'. So the prefer to slam the door and drop the plugins and by decree ban any foreign technology from our beloved HTML / JS free platform. This is unfortunately consistent with the behavior of the political world of today.